INTERVIEW:
PHOTO CREDIT: Maya Sacks
Post Louis
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THERE are many aspects of Post Louis…
that compelled me to dig deep and get to know them better. I ask, firstly, about their new track, Little Jack, and the story behind it. I was curious to know why a stunning church plays a part in their world and music; how the band got together and have progressed; if they are looking ahead regarding more material – where we can catch them perform in the coming weeks.
The band – Stephanie fields most of the questions – reveal how their sound has mutated and what music they grew up around; if there are any new artists worth a shout – why they recorded Little Jack in a rural location with basic recording equipment.
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Hi. How are you? How has your week been?
Stephanie: It was alright, thanks. This week, I learnt about penal reform, Cynthia Nixon’s biography and how to backup my Helicon vocal unit – so, I can’t complain.
How was your week?
For those new to your music; can you introduce yourselves, please?
We are a five-piece called Post Louis. We’re from all over the place, but do most of our work in London.
I front the band. Robbie and his brother Andy both play guitar. Mattis plays drums and Adam plays bass.
Little Jack is out. What is the background to the track?
I had been experimenting with writing in other voices - and Little Jack came from that. Essentially, it is a character-study of someone who lives, mainly, in their own head. It’s about the pains of loneliness and low confidence and what happens when these mix with naïve sexual desire. I wanted to hint at the potential for harm, or even domination.
I have said elsewhere that Little Jack isn’t a monster, but the song is, in part, about how monsters - or wolves - are made. I believe we need to rethink how we make, force and mould some children into being ‘men’.
These are questions I’ve been thinking about for a while…and that I think are circulating in public discourse now in a way that is interesting, inspiring and troubling all at the same time.
It seems the song came together in a very simple surrounding – a basic tape recorded and a rural location! Did you feel the desire to strip away extravagances and luxuries to recharge, in a sense?!
Well. The ability to escape to the countryside like that is, arguably, quite a luxurious and lucky thing to do! But, yes - writing is labour (albeit, amazing labour), and it’s easy to side-line in favour of other less challenging things. So, Robbie and I decided to go away, stare ourselves down and get the core of the songs right.
Was it daunting following up your E.P. – one that gained huge critical acclaim?!
All of this is daunting: the whole process of putting oneself out there. I believe in the music, but the industry is hard work - and here, I come back to labour again. We all work other jobs, as do almost all the musicians I know - even the brilliant ones, even the signed ones. So, it is sometimes daunting working out how to keep standards high and keep dedicated when you are often busy and tired; the timelines are very long.
It’s worth it, though. I should say that, while I’m proud of that E.P., I think these new songs are a whole lot better than our old stuff. I hope people agree…
PHOTO CREDIT: Maya Sacks
Is there more material coming later in the year?
Yes!
How do you feel songs like Little Jack differ to your previous work? Have you noticed an emotional and sonic shift in the band?
Emotionally, things have got darker and more personal. That was a deliberate choice. Irony doesn’t come easily to me. The darkness felt appropriate. You know, sometimes you have a bad year.
As for sonically…we have a solid five-piece line-up that hasn’t shifted for a few years; so, Adam, Andy and Mattis’ personalities and playing styles are really important now. Beyond that, we haven’t consciously changed the sound. We want to just do what we were doing before, but better.
How did Post Louis get together? When did you all meet one another?
Robbie and I have known each other for years and started making music at university. It went through loads of incarnations, from acoustic shows (just the two of us with a guitar) to performances with a string quartet and full band; back to a version with just the two of us on stage - but this time, making loads of noise with loopers, guitar pedals and synths…
When we moved back to London, we started playing with various different friends of ours. This was when Robbie’s brother Andy, who is a bit younger than us, started playing with the band. Eventually - deciding this project was very much a ‘band’ band and not a duo - we advertised, in the hope of finding two more fixed members. We put posters up at music colleges in London. I think we had some romantic idea that we might find a ridiculously-talented, classically-trained double bassist who wanted to plug in. In the event, we found a ridiculously-talented Punk bassist from Glasgow, namely Adam, who was working at the Royal Academy of Music box office and saw the poster.
I can’t remember how we found Mattis. As I told him the other day, I recently found my notes from the first time Robbie and I met him. They say ‘possibly a perfectionist?’ in the margins...
PHOTO CREDIT: Jacob Perlmutter
Give me an impression of the music you grew up around. Which artists did you all fall for at a young age?
At a very young age, I loved anything that was on Magic 105.4 - especially Elton John. I vividly remember coming back from a family holiday on a fateful winter day in 1998, getting in the family car at the airport and driving back home. We scrolled and scrolled through radio stations but my dad couldn’t find much-loved ‘Melody FM’. Eventually, our tired brains must have realised that the combination of Soft Rock, Soul and Lighthouse Family emanating from, what seemed to be called ‘Magic FM’, was the result of a sneaky re-brand.
Andy: The first tape I really remember loving was a Rock ‘n’ Roll compilation, The Best Rock ‘n’ Roll Album in the world…ever! After that, there was a lot of David Bowie, The Beatles and Simon & Garfunkel…and The Offspring.
Mattis: The Rolling Stones, Creedence Clearwater Revival and Neil Young.
Robbie: Like Mattis; I was really into the Stones. My dad took me to the Bridges to Babylon tour when I was nine. Seeing Jagger strutting over a big silver bridge into the middle of Wembley Stadium blew my head off. I’ve still got the big red tongue that doubles as a glove/cushion somewhere.
Adam: I was lucky enough to have music-loving parents; so I grew up in a house of David Bowie, Prince; The Beatles, Leftfield, R.E.M. and Nirvana (to name a few). As a result, I’ve always been fascinated with music; listened to quite a lot of Pop music, Tim Westwood’s Hip-Hop radio show and, of course, growing up in the mid-'90s, the whole Blur vs. Oasis Britpop thing (the answer is ‘Pulp’, by the way).
Looking at some press shots; it seems a Norwegian church building has become a bit of a home/base. Tell me more about that…
Mattis: I live and work part-time at The Norwegian Church in London. We have been lucky to make use of the space there, both for rehearsals and as a small, intimate space for friends and family…and…the waffles are really good!
Adam: I also lived at the church for a time with Mattis, who literally took me in when I was pretty much homeless, due to the end of a long relationship. I slept in a cupboard under the stairs like a very unromantic Harry Potter for about three months until I finally got a proper room there. For a while, it was like a small commune of people you wouldn’t generally associate with a church, but it’s where I’ve met some amazing people…so it will always be a special place for me.
Having it as a rehearsal space is just the cherry on top.
IN THIS PHOTO: Gurr
Are there any new artists you recommend we check out?
Sure, loads: it’s kinda my job these days. I love Gurr from Berlin, who are about to release their second album - and are touring with Shame and The Go Team! But, also, closer to home; I’m a big fan of Sauna Youth and DANCEHALL in London and, in my spiritual home of Glasgow: Anxiety, Freddie Quell and a brand-new band called Puppy Fat are all great (and not just because I may or may not have played with most of these people in the past).
IN THIS PHOTO: DANCEHALL/PHOTO CREDIT: Keira-Anee Photography
Can we see you tour soon? What gigs do you have coming up?
Stephanie: We’re playing a headline show with Parallel Lines on 27th April. It should be special - we’re curating the whole night with D.J.s until late. All the artists involved are friends of ours; some of whom, we’ve worked with before. You should come down and have a dance...
What do you each hope to achieve in 2018?
Adam: Probably the same for all of us: release more music and tour off the back of it.
Robbie: I’ve spent a long time hunkered down, mixing the new songs. So, in what’s left of 2018, I’m also looking forward to playing them live again, stripping them back to their raw essentials and gaining some perspective in doing so.
Have you all got a favourite memory from your time in music – the one that sticks in the mind?
This is nerdy. I once had to play J.S. Bach for an audience where I knew Alfred Brendel (who is an all-time favourite) was watching. It was terrifying but really transformative.
Andy: Putting out songs is always really exciting. Even though there’s the risk that it might not be as well-received as you’d like, it’s such a great feeling to share something that you’ve been working on for a long time and that you’re proud of to the world.
Mattis: When I played KOKO with Toothless, the sound was spot-on!
Adam: Oh man; too many to mention.
Music’s pretty much been my entire life since I was a wee guy. Getting to see Interpol play Turn on the Bright Lights (my favourite album) last year was pretty special, though. As for me personally; I appreciate any moment or memory I have with regards to music, but I guess putting out my own record (FRAUEN) last year was pretty special.
Stephanie: Getting on stage with Post Louis for the first time...
We were supporting Daughn Gibson at Birthdays. There were sound issues. Nothing about it was that remarkable. I’m sure we made loads of mistakes. But, for me, it was an electrifying moment.
What advice would you give to new artists coming through?
Andy: I don’t have any advice but, if anyone else does, then if they could forward it to me then that would be great.
Adam: Run! No, but, seriously: fight for your rights as young artists and keep spaces to perform and practice music alive.
Do you get much time to chill away from music? How do you unwind?
Relax with a big bag of cans with the boys (note: I call everyone ‘boys', even Steph…she probably hates it).
Stephanie: I try and fight the big fights...
Finally, and for being good sports; you can each choose a song and I’ll play it here (not any of your music - I will do that).
Adam: Desire by Ought; which is going to take some beating for the 2018 title of Song of the Year for me. It’s a wee masterpiece.
Mattis: Tempesst - Waiheke
Andy: James Taylor - Your Smiling Face
Stephanie: Matthew Wilder - Break My Stride
Robbie: Huerco S. - A Sea of Love
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